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ApexUltra knife steel

The forger's super steel: developed openly by Larrin Thomas, Tobias Hangler and Marco Guldimann (released 2023) - ~1.25% C, 2.6% W, 1.5% Cr engineered to hold real toughness at 64-67 HRC with edge retention far beyond classic carbon steels, while still forging and quenching like one. Boutique priced, kitchen-blade focused, the most interesting carbon steel in decades.

At a glance

How ApexUltra behaves

The four meters are relative to the rest of the database. Composition is the published nominal analysis, not a mill certificate for your bar.

Working properties

Toughness
3 / 5
Edge retention
4 / 5
Corrosion resistance
1 / 5
Ease of grinding
3 / 5
Also known as

ApexUltra (apexultrasteel.com); no equivalents - purpose-designed original.

Composition
  • Carbon~1.25%
  • Tungsten2.60%
  • Chromium1.50%
  • Vanadium0.40%

Manganese and Silicon kept low (datasheet nominal)

Best uses

Flagship forged kitchen knives, high-hardness EDC and hunters, straight razors, competition-grade fine edges - the showcase steel for makers selling heat-treat skill as the product.

Sources
  • Knife Steel Nerds - Laboratory Development of ApexUltra Forging Knife Steel (knifesteelnerds.com)
  • ApexUltra official datasheet (apexultrasteel.com)
  • KnifeNews ApexUltra interview with Larrin Thomas
  • Barmond Special Steels product data.

At the bench

What each property means for this steel

Open the property you are worried about. Every note is written for the blade in your hand, not for a spec sheet.

Toughness
The headline is the curve: at 64-66 HRC it holds toughness classic steels lose by 62 - meaningfully tougher than 26C3, 1095 or 52100 run that hard. It is not a soft-spring chopper steel and was never meant to be; judge it at the hardness it was designed for, where nothing traditional keeps up.
Edge retention
Far beyond every classic low-alloy steel - tungsten and vanadium carbides in a very hard matrix put it in genuine super-steel cutting company while staying forgeable. At 65-66 HRC thin kitchen edges stay screaming for a long time.
Corrosion resistance
Carbon steel, cares like one - 1.5% chromium is for carbides and hardenability, not stains. Patina, oil, dry storage: the standard contract, unchanged by the R&D.
Grinding and machinability
Honest middle: forges and grinds harder than 1084-class (the tungsten announces itself at the anvil and the belt) but well within normal shop practice with sharp abrasives. Sharpening at full hardness rewards good stones; diamonds welcome, not required.
Quench and temper decide whether ApexUltra gives you the numbers above.

The full reference

More on ApexUltra

ApexUltra is the first steel designed from scratch, in public, for forging bladesmiths — developed by metallurgist Larrin Thomas of Knife Steel Nerds with knifemakers Tobias Hangler and Marco Guldimann, and released in 2023. The brief was audacious: a steel that forges and heat treats like the classic carbon steels but delivers edge retention and hardness in super-steel territory WITHOUT the usual toughness collapse. Roughly 1.25% carbon, 2.6% tungsten and 1.5% chromium later, the result holds working toughness at hardness numbers — 64 to 67 HRC — where traditional forging steels have long since turned to glass. It is expensive, it is deliberate, and it is the most interesting thing to happen to carbon steel in decades.

ApexUltra FAQ

What makes ApexUltra different from other carbon steels?

The hardness-toughness curve. Classic fine steels — 26C3, 1095, 52100 — trade toughness away fast above the low 60s. ApexUltra’s tungsten-carbide chemistry was engineered to keep meaningful toughness at 65-66 HRC, which lets a forged kitchen blade run hardness only powder steels used to visit while surviving real use. Edge retention lands clearly above every traditional low-alloy steel — tungsten and vanadium carbides doing the wearing.

Can it really be forged?

That is the entire design brief — low enough alloy to move under the hammer and weld in a normal forge, unlike the PM stainless class. It forges harder than 1084 (that tungsten is doing something) but honestly, in a propane forge, with normal bladesmith technique: forge high, cycle carefully, and it rewards discipline with astonishing test numbers. This is the steel M390 buyers wish existed for the anvil.

Gloved hands hammer a glowing orange blade on an anvil while tongs hold its tang, with a forge fire behind.

How is ApexUltra heat treated?

Carbon-steel simple, precision preferred: austenitize around 1475–1500°F (datasheet protocols; a kiln makes the numbers honest), quench in fast oil, temper low — around 300–350°F — to land 64–66 HRC working hardness; harder protocols reach 67. No cryo required for excellent results, though careful practice squeezes more. The developers published full open protocols — rare and welcome — via Knife Steel Nerds and the ApexUltra datasheet. Thin kitchen edges at 65+ are the design target, not a stunt.

Gloved hand uses tongs to place a glowing orange-red knife blank inside an open box kiln, with tools on the bench.

Is it tough enough for big blades?

It is tough FOR ITS HARDNESS — the curve is the achievement, not an exemption from physics. At 64-66 it comfortably out-toughs every classic steel run that hard; it is still not a 58-HRC 5160 chopper and should not be built like one. Kitchen blades, EDC, hunters, razors: ideal. Camp choppers: use the tough class.

Thin kitchen knife and a forged hunting knife on leather pads beside a plain steel bar on a dark workbench.

What does it cost and where do you get it?

Premium boutique pricing — several times classic carbon-steel money — through specialist knife-steel suppliers (Barmond in the UK produced early stock; various regional dealers carry it). Sizes are knife-bar focused. The price buys the R&D and the numbers; for a flagship forged kitchen knife the material cost disappears into the finished price anyway.

Three rectangular knife-steel bars in a worn tray beside a rough unhandled knife blank on a dark shop bench.

ApexUltra or 26C3 for a fine kitchen blade?

The new rivalry. 26C3 gives the classic White-steel keenness and hamon artistry at friendly prices; ApexUltra gives higher working hardness, several times the wear resistance, and modern R&D at boutique cost. Edge feel honors go to whichever the maker heat treats better. Full breakdown: ApexUltra vs 26C3.

Head to head

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Thinking about ApexUltra?

Tell me what the blade is for and how you heat treat. I will tell you whether this is the steel I would use, and what I would use instead.